Eddie B 9:20 Thu Mar 24
New Zealand votes to keep the Union Flag
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Queenie will be pleased.
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Eerie Descent
12:55 Thu Mar 31
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Ahhhh *ruffles the little European's hair*
You never know, you might get your own identity one day, Lomas.
I doubt it, but, y'know...
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East Auckland Hammer
12:46 Thu Mar 31
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Some fair points percy, BUT, the Union Jack doesn't really hold any special place in my heart.
Yes, Britain helped establish NZ as a county, and yes, I do have Scottish ancestry, but as time goes by, those are less and less relevant.
You know when you have to put down your ethnicity.....and our only option is European? Well, that's a load of shit. I'm not European. I'm an NZer.
As for the actual flag. I don't mind our current one, which is why I voted for it, despite wanting to change it.
I completely disagree with how the process was conducted, not with the discussion.
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percyd
12:41 Thu Mar 31
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East Auckland Hammer 11:00 Thu Mar 24
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"I wanted (and still do) to change the flag, because it has very little relevance to NZ as we now are."
EAH - but you are in Auckland, the centre of which seems more like a suburb of Beijing these days. For relevance you'd have to have aspects of the Chinese flag on ours (they have 5 stars just like Aussie?).
More seriously, I've seen/heard EAH's view expressed frequently during the so-called "flag debate". Simply not true. We're quite a large country (not greatly dissimilar in size to UK) which is greatly under-populated (bar Auckland, which seems always over-populated to me). Yet we have a good infrastructure from top to bottom thanks very largely to the 'mother country' both as a result of being a Dominion and also through decades of trade. While it may be fair to say such infrastructural development suited both countries, it is equally true that without it we'd be just another under-developed South Pac nation. And I don't mean Australia.
As for the flag: change it when (if) we ditch the honours system and become a republic. Until then I have no difficulty seeing the UJ on the flag, nor distinguishing it from the Aussie standard.
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Annony
12:18 Thu Mar 31
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Employed a few kiwis, Aussies and Saffas and Kiwis were all a pretty decent bunch, Aussies were c**** and Saffas were massive c**** just in case you were wondering.
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Texas Iron
11:31 Wed Mar 30
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Some of proposed new designs...
Ferns...Kiwis Sheep...Maori etc...
https://www.google.com/search?q=new+nz+flag+designs&rlz=1T4TSNA_en___US374&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJnLvRpunLAhVHRyYKHRnHDZsQ_AUIBygB&biw=1070&bih=421
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Texas Iron
11:27 Wed Mar 30
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Well done The Kiwis...
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Cheezey Bell-End
11:14 Wed Mar 30
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We're catching you by the day.
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East Auckland Hammer
9:22 Wed Mar 30
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So, if we can extrapolate from your tennis analogy Sven, it would appear that Australians are becoming bigger and bigger cunts with each generation?
I'd agree with that.
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Sven Roeder
1:09 Wed Mar 30
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The current PM despite being a conservative was head of the republican movement at one point I think.
I do think the death of the Queen might be a trigger for a new debate. Although many Australians (incl me) still have a big connection to the OLD COUNTRY that is becoming less and less with each passing year as the generations change.
As an example Aust tennis players used to be called Rosewall, Newcombe & Hewitt. Now they are Kygrios , Kokkinakis & Tomic.
Obviously not all the change is for the better!
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Cheezey Bell-End
12:05 Wed Mar 30
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The Australian thing was rigged by the PM. Had Turnbull been PM then, the outcome could well have been different. It's just a matter of time really. Britain is less significant a country to each successive generation of Australians (unlike myself who grew up thinking of England as the centre of the universe).
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Chigwell
8:55 Wed Mar 30
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BigDad I take it you voted for the new flag?
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BigDad
8:27 Wed Mar 30
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east Auckland nailed it.
Most of us wanted to change the flag. But then most of us despise the smug current Prime Minister who made this his pet project, so the vote became about him, not the flag.
When we finally get rid of the smarmy twat we will once again look at changing to the silver fern on a black background.
And ffs change the name of the country back to Aotearoa.
And change the anthem.
It won't change the fact I'm poor and perpetually fucked over by the system, but it will make me feel better for about five minutes.
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Sven Roeder
11:47 Thu Mar 24
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Voting is compulsory in Australia with people fined for not attending hence 95% turnout is fairly common I think.
I understand there were 99% valid votes of those made. Presume the 1% of spoiled ballot papers would reflect the number of Kiwi's
I think if there had been a direct question the first time (Monarchy vs Republic) the republic would probably have got up.
The arch Monarchist PM John Howard framed the question to get the result he did.
To be honest if they went again with a straight question with King Charles on the throne (but not King William) I think the Republicans would get up.
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,
11:37 Thu Mar 24
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Sven, my advice to Aussies would be to have a vote on the republic issue when Charles I'd King. My guess is that there would be a reverse, big time, on the last decision.
On second thoughts though if and when he becomes King perhaps you could have him and we in the UK can become a republic instead.
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East Auckland Hammer
11:28 Thu Mar 24
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I call bullshit on that Sven
No way was there 95% of eligible voters in Australia who were able to put a tick in a box.
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Sven Roeder
11:23 Thu Mar 24
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The Australian referendum question wasn't a direct one about just losing the Queen.
It was
A proposed law: To alter the Constitution to establish the Commonwealth of Australia as a republic with the Queen and Governor-General being replaced by a President appointed by a two-thirds majority of the members of the Commonwealth Parliament
Many people wanted a different method of appointing the replacement so rejected it being in the hands of politicians.
There was a 95.1% voter turnout with 45.13% voting YES & 54.87% NO.
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Far Cough
11:04 Thu Mar 24
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If it pisses off Lomas, then it's alright by me
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East Auckland Hammer
11:00 Thu Mar 24
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I wanted (and still do) to change the flag, because it has very little relevance to NZ as we now are.
But, it was our PM's pet project, and he's a cunt.
It also cost $26 million to run the referendum, which involved everyone around the world being able to design and submit a new flag, before it was even established whether the country wanted a new one.
We could have spent that money on plenty of other things which benefitted NZ a whole lot more.
Anyway, we had our flag before Australia, so they should fuck off and make theirs different to ours.
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Eerie Descent
10:55 Thu Mar 24
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Of course they fucking did, they are desperate to be anything other than Kiwis.
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dicksie3
10:36 Thu Mar 24
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Australia had the chance to lose The Queen a few years back as their Head of State - but they voted to keep her in.
Good on them.
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Northern Sold
10:18 Thu Mar 24
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What Surface said… at the end of the day it’s as much their Queen as it is ours… well done you bunch of boring sheep botherers
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